i can't say enough about these pipes. I wanted something more industrial looking, better suited to the bobber style of my Phantom, and something different than the Cobra and V7H pipes everyone else seems to have. They're big and meaty, and are truly black, not just chrome with black covers like other pipes. They look mean, and sound even meaner, especially compared to the anemic stock pipes (side by side comparison here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt2Hwk7GCR8). Installation was straightforward, even though I've never done a pipe swap before (helpful hint: keep the pipes wrapped while installing to prevent scratching the finish). I waited years to upgrade my pipes, and now I wish it had been the first thing I did. If I ever buy another bike, this will be the first mod I make. In addition to them being well made and having great looks, they were packed better than anything I've ordered in the past, either for my bike or for my Jeep. Great job! If you want to stand out in the crowd - like me - skip the Cobras or V&H, and go with the Road Burners!